minding your P's and F's
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Started on 2000-10-16
minding your P's and F's
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2000-10-16 07:36:21 UTC-04:00
The geocachers are starting to put rubber stamps in
geocaches. So these things are letterboxes. Since
there is no "officialdom" to what is a letterbox,
does anyone have a compelling argument as to why these
particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
Certainly if I started calling my boxes "treasure
boxes", they would still count?
Cheers,
--
randy "the mapsurfer" (P27F102)
Hogeita hirugarren kutxak kolonia zaharean da.
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Graham Howard (ghh2@tutor.open.ac.uk) |
Date: 2000-10-16 12:42:42 UTC+01:00
letterbox-usa@egroups.com writes:
>
>The geocachers are starting to put rubber stamps in
>geocaches. So these things are letterboxes. Since
>there is no "officialdom" to what is a letterbox,
>does anyone have a compelling argument as to why these
>particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
Er what is a geocache ?
Sorry to be an ignoramous !
Graham Howard
>
>The geocachers are starting to put rubber stamps in
>geocaches. So these things are letterboxes. Since
>there is no "officialdom" to what is a letterbox,
>does anyone have a compelling argument as to why these
>particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
Er what is a geocache ?
Sorry to be an ignoramous !
Graham Howard
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2000-10-16 07:53:52 UTC-04:00
> Er what is a geocache ?
A box of stuff whose location is described by lat/long
coords (and often much more information in practice)
where you are supposed to take something, leave
something, then write about it in the log book.
Cheers,
Randy
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Jay Chamberlain (ae4mk@1bigred.com) |
Date: 2000-10-16 08:25:48 UTC-04:00
Er what is a geocache ?
Sorry to be an ignoramous !
Graham Howardalso try www.geocaching.comPlacing a container, most of the time much larger then a letterbox, put some "goodies" inside, hid it in the woods and take a GPS waypoint.......www.1bigred.com/jayc/geocache/
Re: minding your P's and F's
From: John De Wolf - PA (jdewolf@mail.icrsurvey.com) |
Date: 2000-10-16 12:37:04 UTC
> does anyone have a compelling argument as to why these
> particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
>
If it has a stamp and a log book, doesn't that make it a letterbox?
Lone Wolf
P6F45X20
> particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
>
If it has a stamp and a log book, doesn't that make it a letterbox?
Lone Wolf
P6F45X20
Re: [LbNA] Re: minding your P's and F's
From: Jay Chamberlain (ae4mk@1bigred.com) |
Date: 2000-10-16 08:49:14 UTC-04:00
John.....
What is the "x" in your P&F....????
Jay C.
Lone Wolf
P6F45X20
Re: minding your P's and F's
From: John De Wolf - PA (jdewolf@mail.icrsurvey.com) |
Date: 2000-10-16 12:52:43 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@egroups.com, "Jay Chamberlain"
wrote:
> John..... What is the "x" in your P&F....????
> Jay C.
Personal stamps "exchanged" with fellow letterboxers, either at
gatheeings or on the trail :-))
wrote:
> John..... What is the "x" in your P&F....????
> Jay C.
Personal stamps "exchanged" with fellow letterboxers, either at
gatheeings or on the trail :-))
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Jeffrey P. Hoskinson (jeffh@lightstream.net) |
Date: 2000-10-17 05:11:19 UTC-04:00
> The geocachers are starting to put rubber stamps in
> geocaches. So these things are letterboxes. Since
> there is no "officialdom" to what is a letterbox,
> does anyone have a compelling argument as to why these
> particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
>
> Certainly if I started calling my boxes "treasure
> boxes", they would still count?
I think the difference is defined more by how you find it. You really can't
hunt geocaches without a GPS receiver, wheras this isn't standard equipment
for a letterboxer. I think if the only clue given is a lattitude /
longitude pair, it isn't really a letterbox.
As always, this is just my $0.02
- Jeff H.
> geocaches. So these things are letterboxes. Since
> there is no "officialdom" to what is a letterbox,
> does anyone have a compelling argument as to why these
> particular ones would not count towards P's and F's?
>
> Certainly if I started calling my boxes "treasure
> boxes", they would still count?
I think the difference is defined more by how you find it. You really can't
hunt geocaches without a GPS receiver, wheras this isn't standard equipment
for a letterboxer. I think if the only clue given is a lattitude /
longitude pair, it isn't really a letterbox.
As always, this is just my $0.02
- Jeff H.
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Susan/Erik Davis (davisarc@wcvt.com) |
Date: 2000-10-17 08:09:32 UTC-04:00
Historical note: Some of the earliest American letterboxes did, indeed,
list latitude and longitude, and one member purchased a GPS that was
sent round the country to help people pinpoint their boxes. One could
argue that these early boxes were also geocaches.
Opinion: If you need a clue to find it and you leave a message you were
there, either by note or stamp, it's a letterbox.
Susan
in-misty-gold&green-quilted-Vermont
list latitude and longitude, and one member purchased a GPS that was
sent round the country to help people pinpoint their boxes. One could
argue that these early boxes were also geocaches.
Opinion: If you need a clue to find it and you leave a message you were
there, either by note or stamp, it's a letterbox.
Susan
in-misty-gold&green-quilted-Vermont
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Thom Cheney (tcgrafx@imagina.com) |
Date: 2000-10-17 07:56:53 UTC-07:00
Susan/Erik Davis wrote:
>
> Historical note: Some of the earliest American letterboxes did, indeed,
> list latitude and longitude, and one member purchased a GPS that was
> sent round the country to help people pinpoint their boxes. One could
> argue that these early boxes were also geocaches.
>
> Opinion: If you need a clue to find it and you leave a message you were
> there, either by note or stamp, it's a letterbox.
'nother opinion... if it is on OUR web site, it is a letterbox... if it
is on THEIR website it is a geocache!
Oregon's first letterbox was placed with a GPS, supplemented with some
basic clues.
TC
>
> Historical note: Some of the earliest American letterboxes did, indeed,
> list latitude and longitude, and one member purchased a GPS that was
> sent round the country to help people pinpoint their boxes. One could
> argue that these early boxes were also geocaches.
>
> Opinion: If you need a clue to find it and you leave a message you were
> there, either by note or stamp, it's a letterbox.
'nother opinion... if it is on OUR web site, it is a letterbox... if it
is on THEIR website it is a geocache!
Oregon's first letterbox was placed with a GPS, supplemented with some
basic clues.
TC
Re: [LbNA] minding your P's and F's
From: Todd W. Lane (tlane@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) |
Date: 2000-10-17 12:01:53 UTC-04:00
If it has a notebook, a rubber stamp, and a set of clues it is a
letterbox. I dont think we should limit the type of clues deemed
acceptable of clues or demand that all "letterboxes" be listed on the
LBNA page.
Thus ends my $0.02.
Todd Lane
Department of Geosciences
Princeton University
(609)258-2489
letterbox. I dont think we should limit the type of clues deemed
acceptable of clues or demand that all "letterboxes" be listed on the
LBNA page.
Thus ends my $0.02.
Todd Lane
Department of Geosciences
Princeton University
(609)258-2489
Re: minding your P's and F's
From: John De Wolf - PA (jdewolf@mail.icrsurvey.com) |
Date: 2000-10-17 17:37:18 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@egroups.com, "Todd W. Lane" wrote:
> If it has a notebook, a rubber stamp, and a set of clues it is a
> letterbox. I dont think we should limit the type of clues deemed
> acceptable of clues or demand that all "letterboxes" be listed on
the
> LBNA page.
> Thus ends my $0.02.
>
> Todd Lane
> Department of Geosciences
> Princeton University
> (609)258-2489
Agreed!
> If it has a notebook, a rubber stamp, and a set of clues it is a
> letterbox. I dont think we should limit the type of clues deemed
> acceptable of clues or demand that all "letterboxes" be listed on
the
> LBNA page.
> Thus ends my $0.02.
>
> Todd Lane
> Department of Geosciences
> Princeton University
> (609)258-2489
Agreed!